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March 9-14, 2000
Name: M.Luc
E-mail address: stillness49@yahoo.com
Comments: Get acquainted with the Cuban Code of the Child published in 1978
and still valid if you think that the Cuban state is not in possession of parental rights.
The State determines whom you are to associate with, what sort of education you will
receive (depending on political attitude), at age 11 you have to yield your son to the
state for separate indoctrination, what sort of values you are authorized to pass on to
your son, etc, etc. Read the bloody document my friends if you think this is a typical
custody case. The boy refuses this hell!
Thursday March 9th 2000 12:03:47
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Name: Julius
E-mail address: Julius@total.net
Comments: We have had enough of this Canadian lumpen( Giczey) who abuses the
freedom of speech of this site. Even filibusters(diatribes) are subject to cloture. He
said all his totalitarian loving mind has to say on the subejct and has convinced no one
with an I.Q. of 100 or higher. The rest is repetition and vitriol. The site of likeminded
people supporting the return of the boy erases comments in true fascistic manner. The time
has come to apply to him what his friends apply to defenders of Elian. Zip it Giczey or be
zipped. Valenza has shown a remarkable tolerance allowing this red-fascist sympathizer
spout his venom. I'd love to buy him a one way ticket to the tropical workers paradise. In
the meantime: Basta, assez, nicht mehr!
Thursday March 9th 2000 12:50:46
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Name: Keith
E-mail address: kvalenza@aol.com
Homepage URL: http://elian.8k.com
Comments: Thursday is "d-day" for Elian Gonzalez. Here are my
thoughts on this: The family has been to hell and back with this whole situation. The easy
thing to do would have been for them to have handed him over to the Cuban government. No
hassle, no headache, no persecution from Cuban-haters or American-hating Canadians. But
instead they chose to do the LOVING thing and do what they could to protect little Elian's
life. To me, their love for this boy has been tested and re-tested. They have experienced
more agony than most parents ever experience in a lifetime. Whatever happens in this
case...the Gonzalez family, including the cousin, should be admired and deeply respected
for their courage and their determination to do the right thing. Remember...what is legal
is not always what is right, moral, or just. The Gonzalez's are true heroes in my book.
God bless the Gonzalez family.
Thursday March 9th 2000 03:28:52
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Name: PeterHoyos
E-mail address: Me2Cuban@aol.com
Comments: ?First of all I dont believe for a minute that you are using
your real name or that you are Canadian. I am almost positive you are a Cuban agent,
working for his pimp (Castro) in the free-world. Of course, using an underground pseudo,
like all of your kind, hiding like cowards, to do the devils work. Prostitues
usually sell their bodies for money, you sell your honor, your integrity, your soul, your
humanity . How can you have an understanding? if you do not posses enough gray
matter to realize what harm can come to that little boy if returned to Cuba and to
every other human being, under the same circumstances in other parts of the world trying
to be free. Your repugnant rhetoric full of hateful lies created by a communist dictators
regime, can only come from the sewer collection printed in the ONLY newspaper that exists
in Cuba since the early 1960's, after Castro had all the newspapers, magazines, and TV
stations confiscated and closed, allowing only his communist propaganda, which is all
CREATIVE WRITING AND WISHFUL THINKING ON HIS PART. You must come from a very
disgusting family. For you to even hint that Elians cousin is capable of molesting
that child, just because they share a room, tells me a lot about the kind of disgusting
family you come from. I can only imagine the kind of sexual abuse you have been subjected
to, by your mother, grandmother, cousins, siblings, etc., all through your life, to even
have such a sick thought! Thinking about your situation, I came to the conclusion that
what you really deserve is pity! I do have a message for your wife, (if she is not a
figment of your imagination) She should keep an eye on you, when you are around her
children! As for your empty assumption on Mas Santos financial situation, I can see that
your problem is envy. But lets suppose that what you are saying is true, would he be
the only business man in the US to do that? I will give you just one example, John F.
Kennedy and his whole family, multi-millionaires. How did his father make his millions? He
made all of his money illegally, he was a bootlegger, involved with the mafia. He was also
involved with the Nazis, and one of his sons became president of the United States with
bought votes, not to mention the rest of the disgraceful things most his other family
members have been involved with, DUIs and leaving a woman to die after driving into
the water, rapes, you name it, they have done it. Look at our present president, want a
more stomach turning human being? Regarding your reasoning as to the fathers right
to speak for Elian, its getting quite old! How many times do you need us to explain
that in any normal situation the child belongs with the parent, BUT CUBAS SITUATION
IS IN NO WAY NORMAL. If you talk on the phone with one of your family members, a family
member which you have had a close relationship within the past, wouldnt you know
exactly what they were trying to tell you even if they couldnt be open in the
conversation? This family was close, where do you think Juan Miguel got the video camera,
the clothes they wore, and the money to buy food and other things on the black market or
the dollar only stores? From his family in Miami, like many other families in Miami that
are sending millions to their family members in Cuba. The slow dying population in Cuba,
if they dont have someone in the United States to send them dollars, they are
completely out of luck, since Castro hates the CAPITALIST YANKEE PIGS but he
loves their dollars. As for your quote dirty Miami Cubans I dont think
you are racist, I do think you are a DIRTY MIAMI CUBAN, DISHONORABLE CASTRO
PROSTITUTE.
Thursday March 9th 2000 05:20:52
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Name: Lupe
E-mail address: Lupe28@aol.com
Comments: ?As you provably all know, Elians team of lawyers is doing
all their work completely for free! But unfortunately, we also know, there will be
thousands of dollars in other legal costs. Elian's family is not at all wealthy, to the
contrary, it's a very hard working family but they do not have the financial means.
Several radio stations will host a radio-marathon this coming Friday, March 10th from 9AM
to 12PM and Saturday, March 11th from 10AM on. The main radio stations working on this
will be RADIO MAMBI and LA PODEROSA, both located in Miami. The ELIAN GONZALEZS
FUND is being done through any OCEAN BANK in Florida. All you need to
do, if you want to donate whatever amount you want, is call the bank directly, they will
give you all the information you need. After the legal costs (NOT THE LAWYERS) are all
paid, and everything is over, any money left on that account will be donated to Liga
Contra el Cancer (Cancer Society.)
Thursday March 9th 2000 06:41:16
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Name: Jim Barnett
E-mail address: jim_1948_2000@yahoo.com
Comments: Lupe, I would like to donate some money, but I do not live in
Florida. Please Email or post some phone numbers to call. I am also starting a car wash
with my kids and friends to raise money. Keep up the good work on all the information you
post. I could tell this case is real dear to your heart. Do not let people piss you off to
where you loose control. In my experiance with people. There is always someone that is
against any idea good or bad. This is what makes this country so great. I retired from the
Military where I fought against communism in other countries. I fought to help people in
my country and help others live a better life. When I hear Evil comments by people in this
country and else where, it makes me sick. We are all immigrants and we all came here
illeagaly. These laws were not around when we took this land from the true American
Indian. So lets cut the crap. The Boy has every right to stay here like we did when we
landed on Plymouth Rock. We left for some of the same reasons. Lets study our history as
Americans. We have a melting pot of cultures and enjoy freedom like no other country. I
think thats why we tend to take it for granted and try to send people back to where they
came from. I wish the American Indian could do the same. I still want to learn more about
Cuba, If you guys have books or movies about Cuba. Not Post Castro stuff. Please Email me
with the information.
Thursday March 9th 2000 03:49:43
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Name: ann
E-mail address: ald@digisys.net
Comments: ELIAN IS NOT AN ORPHAN! HE BELONGS WITH HIS FATHER! HE IS HERE
BECAUSE THESE MIAMI RELATIVES THOUGHT TO GAIN FROM ELIAN. HE IS ALSO HERE BECAUSE HE IS
BEING MISUSED AS A POLITICAL PAWN BY THIS PRESENT GOVERNMENT (WHO WON'T EVEN ENFORCE IT'S
OWN LAWS)! HE IS BEING HELD A PAWN AS CLINTON & COMPANY WANTS THAT MINORITY VOTE!!!!!!
I PRAY THAT ELIAN WILL VERY SHORTLY NOT BE OF ANY USE TO ANYONE HERE SO HE CAN GO TO HIS
LOVING FAMILY AND BEGIN TO HEAL FROM THIS MESS. THAT MIAMI BUNCH SHOULD BE PAYING MORE
ATTENTION TO THEIE OWN KIDS! OUR COURTS SHOULD'NT HAVE TO DEAL WITH THEM TOO!
Thursday March 9th 2000 04:47:48
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Name: Miguel
E-mail address: me2cold4you@hotmail.com
Comments: Clinton is a lame duck President at this time. So what votes does
he have to gain? The majority of the Hispanics in Miami are Republican anyway, so what
votes does he have to gain? Lets get real people these opinions seem to be motivated by
HATE. Both side of Elians family love him. This is common knowledge. Both families want
the best for the child. You have to look at the big picture to understand. You have not
lived it or taken the time out learn it, keep your opinions to yourself. Thats right we
live in a free society. Jail is not an issue. Today is the day. I know he will stay.
"Miami Bunch" sounds like resentment or hate.
Thursday March 9th 2000 05:17:44
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Name: ANN
E-mail address: ald@digisys.net
Comments: THIS IS DIRECTED TO THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE USING THE WORD 'FREEDOM' A
LOT AND WITH APPARENT WILD ABANDON. FREEDOM IS NOT A 'PLACE' NOR AN 'AREA' AND NOT AN
'ONLY SPOT'. SO FREE YOUR MINDS AND CONSIDER: ELIAN CAME FROM A LOVING HOME WHERE HE HAD A
HAPPY LIFE BEING LOVED AND CARED FOR BY HIS FAMILY AND ENJOYING BEING A BUDDY WITH HIS
FATHER. HE IS NOW IN A FAMILY WHERE HE IS PARADED FOR CAMERAS HELD BY THE ARM CONSTANTLY,
AS IF ON A LEASH!! HIS COMPANIONS (HIS GREAT UNCLES CHILDREN) ARE RACKING UP COURT AND
CRIMINAL RECORDS OF THEIR OWN. DON'T YOU THINK THEIR FATHER SHOULD BE PAYING ATTENTION TO
THEM???? IF HE WERE HANGING ON THE THEIR ARMS MAYBE THEY WOULD'NT BE IN TROUBLE! THIS IS A
BRIGHT AND WONDERFUL FUTURE FOR ELIAN???? FREE YOUR OWN MINDS AND FIGURE THIS OUT!!!!
Thursday March 9th 2000 05:52:10
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Name: Gabriel Jacobson
E-mail address: gsjacobson@hotmail.com
Comments: When the Pedro Pan Mission was going on nobody asked if it was
wrong to keep the children from there parents, many people opened there homes for total
strangers. Why then is there so much debate in this case were a boy is here living with
his family. If his father has a problem with it let him come to the U.S. with his family.
Thursday March 9th 2000 05:59:42
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Name: Patty
E-mail address: me2cuban@aol.com
Comments: Ann, lets talk about the MEDIA. They will do anything to cover a
story. They hound movie stars, politicians and people involved in news worthy events.
Elian falls under news worthy. Why? because Fidel and the American Media have made it that
way. The Miami family have asked time and time again to give the kid privacy and they even
went as far as to put up a fence. They do not parade the kid around, the kid goes to
school and returns home. He is followed by the Media. "FREEDOM" good word,
Martin Luther King used it for his speeches. The same speeches can be used for the Cuban
Exiles who had to leave Cuba. "LET FREEDOM RING" This could be solved so easily.
Kill Castro, the Cubans leave your country and Miami is yours. You complain about us, you
say we are the problem. Miami is booming economically because of the Cubans and other
South American countries. The crime is diverse, We have problems with all the races. This
is common for any big city. Elian has a right to live a life of "FREEDOM",
because up to NOVEMBER 99 he lived in a communist society with no chance of becoming an
educated well rounded man. ELIAN OUR PRAYERS WILL BE HEARD.
Thursday March 9th 2000 06:45:33
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Name: Josh
E-mail address: jhiebert@peachtree.com
Homepage URL: http://www.joshthebaptist.com
Comments: Be more realistic. You can't compare Cuba to Nazi Germany. There is a
difference. He should have the right to stay here, he made it.
Thursday March 9th 2000 10:48:56
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Name: Betty V. Llera
E-mail address: galatia@bellsouth.net
Homepage URL: http://personal.mia.bellsouth.net/~galatia
Comments: Elian should stay in the states. I came as a child and I will always be greatful
for being able to become a free adult in the USA
Friday March 10th 2000 12:50:57
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Name: raul garriga
E-mail address: rmgp@bellsouth.net
Comments: please Lord help our hope for freedon stay a live
Saturday March 11th 2000 01:55:57
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Name: William Gates III
E-mail address: Gate3@aol.com
Comments: Elian deserves to be with his father wherever he is. If the U.S. is
not careful, they will incite a war with the Cuban Government.If we didn't want to help
with the Holocaust, why now would we put our nose in business where it does not belong.
What about the thousands of other children who are under Cuban government? What makes
Elian a special case? Maybe we should go over to Cuba and rescue all of the children. The
U.S. does not what other countries sticking their noses in our affairs.What Cuba does is
their business, What Africa does is their business. We cannot force our government and
beliefs on someone else. Has anyone thought about how Elian's father feels? Elian is too
young to make a responsible decision about his life. The only thing he sees all of the
time are cameras, crowds, bright lights,and cool things to do.To him this seems very
exciting, as it would to any child. Remember that according to the UNICEF child rights
convention, every child has a right to their culture and heritage identity. The U.S. is
not what defines who Elian is. Elian is a Cuban, and no matter how many papers are signed,
he will always be a Cuban.Ask yourself this:if your child somehow ended up in another
country against your immediate control, would you still be the parent?Would you still have
parental rights? How about we just take your child because we don't agree with the
government in which you live. We will take the child and make him one of our citizens.I
thought you were the parent..
Saturday March 11th 2000 08:20:09
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Name: DURIF Pierre
E-mail address: pierre.durif@wanadoo.fr
Homepage URL: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/durif.varces/
Comments: Pourquoi ne pas lui demander ce qu'il en pense directement? Il ne
doit pas devenir un enjeu politique...
Saturday March 11th 2000 11:35:36
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Name: s rayias
E-mail address: srayias@hotmail.com
Comments: Granted I am only an American who has read a lot about this
subject, but after reading the US State Department's Report on HUman Right Practices in
Cuba, I firmly believe that Elian should have the right to stay in the US. I do find it
odd that his father hasn't come to the US to be with him during the wait for a court date.
I am sure that this is caused by one of two things; 1. that he wants to but can not, 2. he
does not want to see the boy. In either case, Elian is better off in the long run in the
US. I strongly believe in family, but the right to choose and freedom of speech, religion,
the right to travel, the right to join a union or not or even the choice of whether or not
to vote in an election, are all undeniable human rights. These come with life and go
beyond the child-parent relationship. I will never visit Cuba because I refuse to give
tourist dollars to a Dictator!
Monday March 13th 2000 11:07:47
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Name: PeterHoyos
E-mail address: me2cuban@aol.com
Comments: ?Good book! For those of you that are not doing the devil's work
but that are truly interested in finding out the sad situation people in Cuba are living,
this book is truthful and to the point. The Book: CASTRO'S FINAL HOUR, by Andres
Oppenheimer, co-winner of The Pulitzer Price. Read it, is an education! Cuba's present
situation, although some people would like everyone to believe is a case of a poor
country, were living is not great, sometimes referred to as a "third world
country." Versus a capitalism country, were living is enjoying the very best the
world can offer. This is not really the actual problem in Cuba. There is no freedom
whatsoever! If Elian goes back to Cuba now, he will become a real "HOSTAGE"
unable to leave the Island in the future. Why do you think his father has not rushed to
his son's side, the loving, normal and human thing to do? Just ask any parent living in a
free country!
Tuesday March 14th 2000 05:05:17
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Name: Lupe
E-mail address: Lupe28@aol.com
Comments: ?Ann, I feel you might need a little information about Cuba coming
from someone other than a Cuban person. I believe people need facts in order to have an
educated opinion on a certain subject. Some time ago someone on one of the many lists on
the web posted the following book; DRIVING THROUGH CUBA, AN EAST - WEST JOURNEY, by
Carlo Gebler. I found it at a second hand book store and read it. I hope you will do the
same. I left my country in 1960 as a child (my visa was specially signed by Raul Castro
himself) alone with my mother who was 53. I remember in 1957/1958, my mother, moving guns
and ammunition in a shopping bag covered with vegetables for Castros revolution. The
day we were to leave Cuba, we closed the front door, as if we were going grocery shopping
and never went back home, it's been 40 years. My father was unable to leave the island
with us, because he was one of Castro's officials, having fought with Castro, Raul, and
very close to Camilo (who Castro killed, and blamed it on an accident) at Sierra
Maestra. My father was able to fool all of them and escaped, undetected, 6 months
after we did. It took only 8 months for my father to find out that the Cuban people had
been lied to. At the end of 1959 or the beginning of 1960, my father helped lots of
political pensioners ( more than 80) scape from the jail he was in charge of. The reason,
they were being tortured and treated inhumanly, and my father was not going to be part of
a murderous regime! We, at the urge of the prisoners, left to another part of the island,
as if we were on vacation, thus keeping my father out of the brake out. I remember when we
got back, Castros own white helmet killer police, with their rifle fixed bayonets
in hand, dripping with blood, from the political prisoners that didnt make it out,
were walking around, as if nothing had happened, actually laughing mocking the way the
prisoners pleaded. I will never forget the terrible state of their bodies. The Cuban
people didnt hear about this cruel act, because the survivors were taken late at
night on milk trucks to military hospitals, not regular hospitals. Try to put yourself and
your family in that position. I hope you dont think I am being nasty or
disrespectful to you, that is not my intension. Cubas present situation is not like
any other country. The totalitarian dictatorship that exists in the island is not
presented to the world the way it really is. In Cuba the children do not belong to their
parents, the constitution was changed by Castro, and the children belong to the
government. They are taught to be communist and to hate the United States and its
citizens with a vengeance. We have a terminal CANCER just 90 miles from USA territory, a
crazy man that has turned a beautiful prosperous island into a dilapidated concentration
camp and in the process has killed thousands of people.
Tuesday March 14th 2000 07:48:26
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Name: Lupe
E-mail address: Lupe28@aol.com
Comments: If interested in educating yourselves on the Cuban topic visit:
http://www.fiu.edu/~fcf/yara/
Tuesday March 14th 2000 08:10:31
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Name: Lupe
E-mail address: Lupe28@aol.com
Comments: FROM CUBA Students Barred From Exams HAVANA, February 17 (Grupo de
Trabajo Decoro) - Students attending Basic Secondary Schools in the Countryside and tech
schools for the Sugar Industry and for Veterinary Science in Pinar del Río, Cuba's
westernmost province, will not be allowed to take exams unless they have attended mass
demonstrations in favor of the return of rafter boy Elián González. In like fashion,
failure to attend the political acts will affect their elegibility for weekend passes and
family visits, according to Judith Gómez, of the independent Teachers' Association.
Tuesday March 14th 2000 09:31:02
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Name: Lupe
E-mail address: Lupe28@aol.com
Comments: Over $200,000.00 were collected for the Elian defense fund! This
money is going to pay for "additional legal expenses"; legal stamps,
investigators, researchers, Fed Ex, and whatever other expenses pop up. VERY IMPORTANT!
The 7 lawyers working on Elian's case are working 100% pro bono (their time spent on
Elian's defense is completely FREE.) It's a matter of fact, the money left over at the end
will be donated to "LIGA CONTRA EL CANCER" (same as Cancer Society, but the
Spanish branch.)
Tuesday March 14th 2000 11:26:17
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